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Hi Paul-L, please don't [http://cy.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Delwedd%3ALisa_Gerrard%2C_Paris.jpg&diff=292849&oldid=292839 revert], the user is uploading derived work to flickr and then uploading to wmf-projects. This is a clear copyright violation, please delete his images, please see [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_reports#Lisa_Gerrard_-_vandal this page] for further information, or contact me, many thanks in advance, best regards, --[[Defnyddiwr:Spacebirdy|Spacebirdy]] 12:15, 24 Mawrth 2008 (UTC)<br>
P.S., the images have been deleted on commons, and the user has been blocked there because he continued. This is why he is now uploading them cross-wiki. Thanks for Your attention, --[[Defnyddiwr:Spacebirdy|Spacebirdy]] 12:18, 24 Mawrth 2008 (UTC)
== Electoral Constituencies ==
[[Defnyddiwr:Paul-L|Paul-L]]. '''I find your attitude offensive'''! The correct protocol is to discuss a problem before banning a user and thus giving them no right of reply. '''Your behaviour is unacceptable and I must therefore question your ability to act as an administrator'''!
Whilst in the process of editing the [[De Clwyd (etholaeth seneddol)]]; [[De Clwyd (etholaeth Cynulliad)]]; [[Wrecsam (etholaeth Cynulliad)]] and [[Wrecsam (etholaeth seneddol)]] constituency pages I discovered that the templates being used were badly coded and were failing to insert the correct fields on the page and displaying the actual codeing. This was obvious to anyone who viewed the pages.
Before I began my editing, the call to the "Gwybodlen Etholaeth Cymru" template on your Welsh constituencies pages read something like:
<nowiki>{{Gwybodlen Etholaeth Cymru |</nowiki><br />
Enw = xxxx |<br />
Math = Sir |<br />
Map = [[Delwedd:]] |<br />
Creu = 1999 |<br />
AC = xxxx | <br />
<nowiki>Plaid) = [[Y Blaid Lafur (DU)|Llafur]] |</nowiki> <br />
rhanbarth = xxx | <br />
}}
* Why was there a bracket after the word "''Plaid''"? The template was not set up to accept this! I notice that since banning me you have now accepted my correction to this!
* Why did the party name appear as an internal link piped via a short name? The template was not set up to accept this! I notice that since banning me you have now managed to correct your template!
* Why does the label "''rhanbarth''" begin with a lower-case letter when all of the other labels begin with upper-case letters? Shouldn't we be aiming for standardisation here? I notice that since banning me you have reintroduced this poor structure.
* Why did some of your templates '''Nodyn:<party name>/meta/enwbyr''' contain the '''full''' name of the party? I notice that since banning me you have now accepted my corrections to these!
* Why did most of your templates '''Nodyn:<party name>/meta/lliw''' contain colour hex codes different from those on the English wiki pages? I notice that since banning me you have now accepted my corrections to these!
* Why do we need to know which "ceremonial county" a constituency is in? The House of Commons Library Papers, the prime source of electoral data in the UK, make no reference to these archaic institutions. I notice that since banning me you have reintroduced this irrelevant information.
* I renamed your templates '''Nodyn:Annibynol (gwleidydd)/meta/enwbyr''' and '''Nodyn:Annibynol (gwleidydd)/meta/lliw''' in line with the correct spelling, "Annibynnol". I notice that since banning me you have now accepted my corrections to these!
* Your '''Crynodeb Etholiad''' table template had poorly-condidered width settings. The overall width of the table, and the widths of the individual columns, had had little thought put into them and resulted in text-wrap in both candidate names and party names. I adjusted these to more sensible values. (Fixed pixel widths should be avoided in this situation and percentage values should be used in preference). I notice that since banning me you have now accepted my changes to these!
My changes were simply an exercise in tidying-up poor coding! So please don't criticise me for trying to correct what were other people's (possibly your?) original mistakes! Despite your '''inane rantings''' I notice that many of the changes I made have still been retained!
No doubt that when you reversed my changes you saw the original errors re-appearing and had to make the changes that I was in the process of making before I was so rudely interupted!
The articles on the Welsh constituencies are in '''total disarray'''! There is no uniformity whatsoever, with several different formats of maps, tables and layouts in use and I was merely attempting to apply one, coherent, style to '''all''' of the pages.
I accept that the boundaries may have changed in some constituencies but inserting these maps was only a stop-gap excercise. I believe that this was preferable to allowing the text '''<nowiki>"[[Delwedd:]]"</nowiki>''' or your coding errors to appear within the articles. The maps I used were the same goup of maps used my [[Defnyddiwr:Thaf|Thaf]] on several of the other Welsh constituency pages, so I simply followed in his style. The more up-to-date maps I would prefer to use are only available on the English wikipedia (by '''Barryob''') and are not, as yet, available on Commons. My next task would have been to move these maps to Commons and to use them on all Welsh constituency pages. However, I notice that since banning me, you are of the same opinion but have '''blatantly plaguerised''' '''Barryob''''s work rather than use the correct procedure of moving them to Commons and retaining the original tags, or at least giving the original poster credit for his work!
There is of course an obvious dilemma here as the election results which appear on the pages for the 1999 and 2003 elections are based on the constituencies' boundaries at that time and, in many cases, will not correspond to maps of the current constituency boundaries!
I also notice that the text '''<nowiki>"Lleoliad <constituencyname> {{{Treiglad}}}"</nowiki>''' is still appearing on many pages. Do you intend correcting this?
Do you feel that you are the only person allowed to contribute to election pages? I notice that, despite these pages being uploaded over a year ago, you personally have made little attempt to improve them. Also, if you feel that your templates should not be edited I believe that the correct procedure is to apply a '''lock''' to them?
[[Defnyddiwr:Paul-L|Paul-L]], '''you do not have what it takes to be an administrator''', and with people like you as administrators of Wici Cymru I have no wish to continue contributing. I'm off! Hwyl!
''A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing''', (GBS). --[[User:Maelor|<span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; color:white; background-color:red"> Maelor ]]</span> 18:34, 5 Mai 2008 (UTC)
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