Wicipedia:Negesfwrdd gweinyddiaeth/Fandaliaeth y Wicipedia Cymraeg 2011
- Mae'r dudalen hon wedi'i chloi gan fod ynddi wybodaeth a all fod o fudd i fandaliaid y dyfodol.
Bambifan a'r Fandal Cymraeg yn un
- Symudwyd y wybodaeth hon o'r caffi.
Mae yna ddrwg yn y caws. Drwg mawr. Mi rydw i wedi canfod fod y fandaliaid sydd wedi bod mor brysur ddoe a heddiw yn UN fandal, nid llawer. Un drwg sydd yn y caws. Rwan ta, yr un ydy’r canlynol:
- 69.174.87.44 – bambifan yn newid tudalennau Sgwrs:The Little Mermaid (ffilm 1989) ac eraill. Gweler www.dnsstuff.com yma Mae e’n defnyddio “THEPLANET-AS“ fel IP
- 199.167.132.119 – y fandal Cymraeg (neu wrth-Wicaidd) sy’n dweud ei fod yn adnabod un o’n Gweinyddwyr yn bersonol. Gweler yma. Gweler www.dnsstuff.com yma. Mae hwn yn defnyddio “THEPLANET-AS“ fel IP
Hefyd.
- 93.93.222.209 – yr un person yn newid llun Hitler am lun o Nick Clegg. Mae hyn i mi’n drosedd a dylid riportio’r fandal yma i’r heddlu ar unwaith. Gweler y newid a wnaeth yma. Gweler hefyd y prawf mai’r un ydy hwn hefyd: www.dnsstuff.com yma.
Mae angen mynd a hyn ymhellach. John Jones
- Dwi'n credu bod rhaid inni gael Meta i mewn ar y peth. Polisi Wikipedia ydy rhwystro TORs a phrocsis yn syth byn. Felly mae'n rhaid inni fod ar ôl hyn. -- Xxglennxx (sgw. • cyf.) 21:19, 8 Medi 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to use English here. No, in those traceroute results you are seeing the route from the web server which is running the service through to the machine being tested. Where you are seeing the "THEPLANET-AS" is in the first hops from the webserver machine, which are at the webserver end, not the destination end, and will be pretty much the same regardless of what the destination is. Try it with any IP address, including your own, and you will still see the same thing (and conclude that you are the vandal?!). You need to be looking at the near-to-last hops. (Though frankly, even if these match, it won't prove much. The chances are that the users are using proxies, and you really can't tell whether it's one person or many behind them. The solution is the same: block the proxies, and don't waste time trying to figure out the number of people behind them.) Regarding the Hitler/Clegg thing, it's obviously defamatory and I guess you're right in principle that it's unlawful, but the redress is probably civil rather than criminal, and for a public figure the bar is probably pretty high. Oxford 22:08, 8 Medi 2011 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, the first two of these IPs are in different places in the US, and the third one in England, according to infosniper.net. Bear in mind that any or all of them could be proxies, and that geolocation in the UK is a bit approximate (I've seen two websites that purport to do geolocation have estimates that differ by I guess about 200 miles for the same IP). Oxford 22:23, 8 Medi 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting... A couple of pieces of vandalism that were made from an IP in England (edits: [1], [2], geolocate: [3]) were repeated yesterday ([4]) by a user who also directed an anti-English comment at me: [5]. There are of course various plausible explanations for this (inaccurate geolocation / proxy / someone anti-English but living in England / copycat vandalism and general trolling), though probably hard to tell which applies, and not ultimately worth wasting time trying to find out and I think we need to move on really. I just flag this apparent anomaly as caution against trying to draw any simple conclusions. Oxford 06:48, 9 Medi 2011 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, the first two of these IPs are in different places in the US, and the third one in England, according to infosniper.net. Bear in mind that any or all of them could be proxies, and that geolocation in the UK is a bit approximate (I've seen two websites that purport to do geolocation have estimates that differ by I guess about 200 miles for the same IP). Oxford 22:23, 8 Medi 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to use English here. No, in those traceroute results you are seeing the route from the web server which is running the service through to the machine being tested. Where you are seeing the "THEPLANET-AS" is in the first hops from the webserver machine, which are at the webserver end, not the destination end, and will be pretty much the same regardless of what the destination is. Try it with any IP address, including your own, and you will still see the same thing (and conclude that you are the vandal?!). You need to be looking at the near-to-last hops. (Though frankly, even if these match, it won't prove much. The chances are that the users are using proxies, and you really can't tell whether it's one person or many behind them. The solution is the same: block the proxies, and don't waste time trying to figure out the number of people behind them.) Regarding the Hitler/Clegg thing, it's obviously defamatory and I guess you're right in principle that it's unlawful, but the redress is probably civil rather than criminal, and for a public figure the bar is probably pretty high. Oxford 22:08, 8 Medi 2011 (UTC)
Dwi wedi bod yn tacluso'r sothach mae'r fandaliaid wedi bod yn creu. Dwi am adael yr ADRAN HON yma er mwyn inni drafod y peth ymhellach. Dileaf (drwy guddio) yn syth bin gyfraniadau a welaf sy'n edrych yn fandaliaeth/hiliaeth ayyb oddi wrth y fandaliaid hyn, ond mae croeso i unrhyw gyfeirio ati fan hyn. -- Xxglennxx (sgw. • cyf.) 20:20, 11 Medi 2011 (UTC)