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Gweler hefyd Sgwrs Defnyddiwr:Deb

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda! :)

Hi Deb, you can do all the biographies you want now -- I've finally put up an entry for every day of the year (and it seems got a touch of RSI:) ). -- Arwel 19:01, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Deb, thanks for keeping cy.wikipedia growing! I've been offline for the last week while I was in hospital after breaking my leg falling down a few stairs at home :-( Arwel 09:58, 26 Jan 2004 (PST) (mostly housebound for the next six weeks...)

Hi Deb.

I've just acquired "Bureaucrat" status, which means I can make new sysops on this Wikipedia. As you're the most active other user, would you like to be a sysop? The only benefit is the ability to delete pages and edit MediaWiki: pages so you could correct my mistakes in translating the user interface...! -- Arwel 14:19, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Welcome to sysophood! You should now be able to see a few more options on the left hand side. Like quite a few minor language Wikipedias we've never protected "Hafan", though I suppose as we get more users we ought to hit "Amddiffynwch tudalen hon" against it sometime. -- Arwel 00:18, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Deb, when I was adding someting to the Esperanto-Wikipedia about "Kimra lingvo" (Cymraeg), I found a request to translate the english page about Cymraeg into Esperanto. I will do so, even english is not my mothertongue, but german. We esperantists try our best to help endangered and minority languages. Especially we are fighting against any English-only tendencies and for language equality. Would you please translate something about Esperanto into Cymraeg. Unfortunately our Esperanto-language is often ridiculed or even defamed by english-only speakers and thus the english page is not very positive in regard to Esperanto. The french side is a bit more positive. The german version is more positive and e.g. the dutch version is quite positive. Would you or one of your fellow Cymraeg-Wikipedists please create a page about Esperanto in Cymraeg? thanks in advance! Multkolorbirdo (Colourfull-Bird) 16:59, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Deb,

A short-notice warning if you're currently online, or probably an after-the-event explanation of what's gone on if you're not! :) I've asked the developers to put online -- this should finish the Cymricisation (dates, etc.). The most prominent change will be to the namespaces, so Wikipedia: should become Wicipedia:, User: becomes Defnyddwr:, User_talk: becomes Sgwrs_defnyddwr: and so on. I'm hoping that these changes will be automatic, but I can envisage that there may be outstanding links which may be broken and have to fixed manually :( ! Touch wood it all goes well.... Arwel 20:38, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Deb,

Draig Goch20 here, just saying thanks for the Welcome. I am a learner myself (Been learning Welsh since 1996). I construct my Welsh sentences to the best of my ability in Microsoft Word. When I read over it then and feel that my sentence is as good as I can make it, I then paste it into Wikipedia Cymraeg for public view. I am new to the Wikipedia atmosphere and ask if people give me time to learn to use it's functions. I also thank people for correcting some of my Articles.

Hope to meet nice people on Wikipedia too, A Welsh Wikipedia is a very good idea.

It's the bad penny again!

I just saw you've created a link to 'Pedr Ilyich Tchaikovsky', and was wondering if we ought to be translating P.I.'s first name liked that, since this articles' spelling is unique in all of Google! There are 60 entries for 'Petr Ilyich' and just under 20,000 for 'Pyotr Ilyich'. I don't know if anyone would think of looking under Pedr, but if we did that, shouldn't his name be spelt something like 'Pedr Ilïts Tsaicofsgi'? I'm not too keen on developing a whole new transliteration scheme for Russian -- I was on holiday in Vienna during the 1990 Russian coup and it was quite odd reading newspapers featuring people like Boris Jelzin and Michail Gorbatschow! (I suppose in Welsh they'd be spelt Boris Ieltsin and Mihangel Gorbatsof!) -- Arwel 21:03, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Glad you've been thinking about naming! I think most people would probably look under 'Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky', but some might look under 'Pedr Ilyich Tchaikovsky', so I'd suggest having the article under "Pyotr" with a redirect from "Pedr". -- Arwel 00:04, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)


= bad achub [1]. (The first story on the BBC news in Welsh last night was about lifeboats, funnily enough-- the closure of the station at Llandudno-- but my Welsh still isn't good enough to be able to pick vocab out of running spoken text and I couldn't find a written Welsh version of that story.) Marnanel 19:13, 8 Ebr 2004 (UTC)

Banning vandalsGolygu

Hi Deb. That user's been doing anonymous edits to the sandbox, putting "Welsh people - sheepshaggers" twice. I don't see that we have to put up with that sort of thing, so I banned him for a week... unfortunately it looks like he's a dial-up user who gets a different IP address every time he logs in, so we'll just have to play "whack-a-mole" and ban him every time he shows up! If it was a matter of a regular user playing silly buggers then we ought to discuss things before banning him, but in the case of anons doing this then I regard it as vandalism which can be fixed without warning. Regards, Arwel 21:02, 14 Ebr 2004 (UTC)


I see you've moved Islwyn Ffowc Elis from Marwolaethau ar. I had an email from Dyfrig yesterday asking how to fix his mistake, so I wrote him an email explaining what to do, on the principle that if you give a man a fish he'll have a good meal, but teach him how to fish and he'll eat for life, rather than fix it myself. Obviously he hadn't got round to it today! :) Arwel 21:09, 14 Ebr 2004 (UTC)

Blocking vandalsGolygu

Hi Deb. Please take a look at my note on Sgwrs Defnyddiwr:Marnanel for my suggestions on how to handle our sheepy friend while I'm away for a few days! All the best, Arwel 00:28, 20 Ebr 2004 (UTC)

Editing Erthyglau NewyddGolygu

It took a little searching, but you need to edit Template:Erthyglau_newydd -- I think that was one of Marnanel's changes! :) -- Arwel 23:56, 12 Meh 2004 (UTC)

That's right. I thought it made sense that anyone could add articles to Erthyglau_newydd since anyone can create them. There didn't seem to be the same risk of vandalism as the one which necessitated the protection of Hafan, since casual vandals would need to be able to find the page first. Marnanel 04:07, 13 Meh 2004 (UTC)

Year articlesGolygu

If you'd rather the year articles were structured a different way, please don't fix it by hand! It would be very easy just to modify the script and run it again. The decade links should run for five decades either side, not for the whole length of the current century, then? Marnanel 20:12, 15 Aws 2004 (UTC)

Just saw your comment here. The system we've used so far is "five decades on either side of the current decade. and five years on either side of the current year". I have to say I was impressed when I logged on today and saw 2500+ articles! :) -- Arwel 22:15, 15 Aws 2004 (UTC)
It'll certainly make my life easier in future. Deb 20:57, 16 Aws 2004 (UTC)

French KingsGolygu

Hi Deb! Thanks for all the French kings - should'nt it be "o Frainc" instead of "o Ffrainc"? --Okapi 23:37, 31 Aws 2004 (UTC)

Should it? I didn't think "ff" was affected by mutation. I'll have to pass the question on to someone who knows. Deb 17:33, 2 Med 2004 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry... I've had another look at my grammar book, looks as if you are right... I seem to have got my ffs and lls mixed up. I should have checked first... --Okapi 23:08, 2 Med 2004 (UTC)


I've forgotten to thank you for the welcome, Debora.

Could you say what is the exact translation, in cy:, for 'Main article' ('Article principal') ?

Something as ... Erthygl ... ???

Ma'ame Michu 23:24, 24 Med 2004 (UTC)

Thank you DebGolygu

Thanks for your welcome (as I assume Croeso am y wicipedia cymraeg is translated as Welcome to the Welsh wikipedia)! It took me some time to figure it out ;-) Kind regards, MarcoVD 19:30, 9 Rhag 2004 (UTC)


Hi Deb. The deleted "Waldo Williams" article had 3 "l"s in it (well, 4 if you count the one in "Waldo"!), and there was a request from the creator to delete it. It's been rewritten with the requisite number of l's now. I suppose you could say it was an l of a mess.... :) -- Arwel 13:13, 14 Rhag 2004 (UTC)


Hi Deb. Thanks for trying to fix some of the damage. Careful though - some of the gibberish renamed articles linking to the autofellatio image do in fact have renamed proper articles as older versions - I've got a printout of all the damage done, so I'm trying to move them back and revert them! -- Arwel 17:40, 30 Maw 2005 (UTC)

I think it was a random hit -- apparently the Klingon wikipedia suffered last night too. -- Arwel 17:45, 30 Maw 2005 (UTC)
That's an idea! :) I'm not sure whether or not #redirect is hard-coded into the software and #ail-cyfeirio is an alternative. I'll have to make enquiries... -- Arwel 18:03, 30 Maw 2005 (UTC)
I'm afraid it's not an idea, after all! :( - the vandal came back last night and tried to redirect my talk page - he's already found out what the Welsh for "redirect" is, unfortunately. -- Arwel 15:40, 31 Maw 2005 (UTC)
I had been away a couple of days and just dropped in to witness the effects of last night's havoc - if I can do anything to help the cleanup just let me know! --Okapi 12:14, 31 Maw 2005 (UTC)

Yes, having to check the log whether someone's already blocked is a pain. A shorter block will override a longer one (in fact I've just noticed that the 24 hour block you put on user SPUI yesterday has expired and overridden the indefinite one I'd given earlier), so I'll just temporarily unblock and reblock him.... -- Arwel 21:21, 31 Maw 2005 (UTC)

Oh, no - he used two incarnations, the first night he was Defnyddiwr:OldakQuill and Defnyddiwr:SPUI, and the second night he was Defnyddiwr:Oldak Quill. Spot the difference! -- Arwel 21:34, 31 Maw 2005 (UTC)

Hi Deb, sut mae? Thought this section had an appropriate heading for the subject I want to mention, i.e. the supposed "contributions" of Defnyddiwr:Mh69. Wicked sense of humour - take a look at the second pic he's just added to Anne Boleyn for instance, or Guinness. His / her User pages give further examples in the same genre. I think he's just into NONSENSE and messing things up "for a laugh". I could easily revert the Boleyn joke now but then it might be missed and I really feel this User is a strong candidate for blocking (wonder what else he's done?). Cheers, Anatiomaros 21:20, 20 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Deb. Some may be alright but how about this in Esperanto? Original: Fe wastraffodd Zamenhof deng mlynedd o'i fywyd yn greu iaith dwp Zamenhof malŝparis dek jarojn de sia vivo kreanta lingvon stultan Roedd ceilliau mawr gyda mam Zamenhof La patrino de Zamenhof havis grandajn testikojn. Rough translation: "Zamenhof wasted ten years of his life creating a stupid language" (gobbledgook=more or less the same), and "Zamenhof's mother had big balls" (ditto again for the gobbledook - surely it should be "la patrina"? But I guess that's part of the joke!). This was the third thing I looked at. A shot across the bows is called for, at least? Pity. Anatiomaros 22:20, 20 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Another vandalism report. Definitely no excuse with this one. Anonymous user has now twice COMPLETELY BLANKED pages - see Camlas Panama (a couple of days back) and Gweriniaeth Pobl China (today- now reverted). Anatiomaros 15:55, 27 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

1. Re: vandalism by anon user ISP address AGAIN! He/she blanked the wikipedia article. Check user's "contibutions" - he/she's a "Serial Blanker". Shouldn't out and out vandals like this be blocked permanently? If blocked for a few months they'll only be back to create more mischief... Hwyl a chofion, Anatiomaros 15:16, 29 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

2. Defnyddiwr:Odsjnodsif has just joined us. His/her sole contribution to date has been to remove the wiki logo and its text from wikipedia and replace it with a Hammer and Sickle and the text "Wikipedia is Communism!". Funny, I thought we were just a bunch of Welsh Nats and Computer Anoraks. Ah well... Anatiomaros 15:24, 29 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

We had a really bad spate of vandalism late last night. Three 'new users' - probably the same person - had a blitzkrieg session for about half an hour. Please don't ban me by mistake; one account created was "Anatiiomaros", in retaliation for my intervention! All the damage was reverted by me eventually, as anon user. What I'd like to know is whether there is a means of getting some sys-op or admin to come over quickly and block a persistent vandal? Whoever it was last night, he/she/they knew what they were doing and could have caused a great deal of mischief. We could really do with some "emergency cover". Hwyl a chofion, Fôn. Anatiomaros 15:42, 24 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

Hi Deb, thanks for the suggestion about being an admin. I wouldn't mind at all but I'd rather only do it occasionally or when need arises (e.g. last night!) as I feel we have so few contributors that I'm more useful writing articles. However if someone should nominate me I would accept and be there on "stand-by", so to speak. These vandals are becoming more sophisticated I think - knew how to revert my reverts within seconds last night, for instance - and slapping a tudalen amheus on a page has no effect whatsover. It was so frustrating! Anatiomaros 18:05, 24 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

Nôl eto. Iawn felly, pwy dwi'n gofyn? Sounds ok to me if that's all that's involved. I always try to keep an eye on things when I'm here anyway, so it would be nice to be able to intervene should the occasion arise (for shuold read when!). Next step, put humility aside and choose someone to ask (they would then contact you, I suppose?). Anatiomaros 19:15, 24 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

Diolch Deb. Hope I don't have to use them too often! Fôn, Anatiomaros 21:00, 27 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

"How did it feel?" Very empowering! Mustn't let it go to my head. Thank God i'm not an amateur painter living in Munich! Anatiomaros 19:01, 5 Chwefror 2007 (UTC)

Rhestr pabauGolygu

Beat ya to it! Deb 17:36, 19 Ebr 2005 (UTC)

Only just! It's the first time I've ever had an edit conflict on cy.wikipedia - quite interesting to see what it looks like! :) -- Arwel 21:42, 19 Ebr 2005 (UTC)

Diolch yn fawrGolygu

  • Ti ringrazio molto per l'accoglienza :-)
  • Je te remercie beaucoup pour ton accueil :-)

I know you'll understand!

--Pare (☮&♥) 21:08, 15 Mai 2005 (UTC)

You can lock down my English wikipedia user pageGolygu

You can put the page in protection.

Draig goch20 22:42, 22 Gorffennaf 2005 (UTC)

Nodyn:User cy-0Golygu

Carissima, ti vedo collegata e penso che tu capisca l'italiano abbastanza da poter seguire questa mia richiesta.

Puoi costruirmi il riquadro per babel Nodyn:User cy-0? Si tratterebbe di qualcosa come qui sotto, ma ovviamente per la lingua Cymraeg:

it Questo utente non capisce l'italiano, o lo capisce con notevoli difficoltà.

Grazie! --Pare (☮&♥) 22:34, 25 Gorffennaf 2005 (UTC)

In case you're in doubt, it means "this user does not understand (Welsh) or understands it with difficulty." My first attempt is "Mae'r defnyddiwr hwn dim yn deall Gymraeg, neu yn deall gyda afrwyddineb." I'm sure that's full of errors - can you help? Deb 18:20, 26 Gorffennaf 2005 (UTC)
well, I'd say "ddim yn deall...", and I'd use anhawster rather than afrwyddineb, but that's just my dialect! Otherwise it sounds OK. -- Arwel 18:44, 26 Gorffennaf 2005 (UTC)

Losing faith in editing skillsGolygu

I feel now that I am losing faith in my editing skills on this wikipedia. I have received complaints that my articles are alway's in need of "Language Cleanup" which proves that I am not as good as the other users on here. I will leave the use of Welsh to the pro's and I shall hang around in the background.

Draig goch20 19:10, 31 Gorffennaf 2005 (UTC)

Made me feel a little better, diolch. I'm young and I guess being a youngster I take to things. I love Welsh, I wish Welsh was used more often everywhere in Wales. My problem was that for years I did not feel confident that my Welsh was any good to use in public. This wikipedia made me feel a lot better until now. Nid yw'r Gymraeg fi "Sgiliau da", mae fy Gymraeg fi yw geiriau ydw i ddysgu oddiwrth pobol arall ar y we. Diolch, rydw i wedi ymadael fy penderfyniad i chi yfory.

Draig goch20 20:26, 1 Awst 2005 (UTC)


Hi Deb, I'm not ignoring you - I've just been offline for a long weekend (and will be again from Wednesday night!). I'll try to reply to your question tonight (but what template did you have in mind to translate?). -- Arwel 15:28, 1 Awst 2005 (UTC)

User using German swear wordsGolygu

The following user "" left "scheiss! nicht langsam sondern schnell" which means "shit! not slowly but fast". This use of language no matter what language it is in, it is unacceptable.

Draig goch20 20:31, 1 Awst 2005 (UTC)

In the article on the German language, I had meant to say "yn gyflym" but had written "yn araf" instead by mistake. Annoyed with myself for my stupidity, I came out with an expletive in the edit summary when I corrected it. Sorry, I shouldn't have done, and apologies for any offence.
The edit summary really meant:
Oh darn. I didn't mean to say "yn araf" but "yn gyflym".
But quoted out of context, it looks like I meant to say:
Defecate! And don't do it slowly, do it fast! 20:32, 5 Awst 2005 (UTC)


Paham dydyn ni ddim yn cael fersiwn Cymraeg o Wikimedia??

Draig goch20 23:01, 2 Awst 2005 (UTC)


Diolch am y croeso. Lloffiwr 22:14, 3 Awst 2005 (UTC)

Unnecessary articleGolygu

"Iaith Almaeneg" is an unnecessary article, information is already available in "Almaeneg", I say the information in the former should be transfered to the latter.

Draig goch20 18:44, 6 Awst 2005 (UTC)

Diolch. Llareggub 19:27, 6 Awst 2005 (UTC)


I am rather dubious of user Llareggub See his articles Great Cockup, Small Cockup, llanelli with reference to BBC pronunciation, NG, etc.

Any thoughts? and if you agree what should we do about him

Dyfrig 11:05, 8 Awst 2005 (UTC)

Send him to bed without any supper. Cymydog3 07:11, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)
Give him sennapods and lock him in the dark. Cymydog4 07:15, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)
Off to the reformatory. Cymydog3 07:16, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)
Off to the reformatory. Cymydog4 07:18, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)
Learn him with a slipper on his b.t.m. Undeb Gymydogion 07:21, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)
?????? - Draig goch20 17:31, 9 Awst 2005 (UTC)

Cyflwyno fy hunanGolygu


I'm Rhys. I live near Nice, France but I was born in Wrexham and our family moved to Cardiff when I was young. I have also lived in Bala and Machynlleth. I speak fluent Welsh and French, not to mention English of course. I also speak quite good Italian and a little Arabic too. I could see that the Welsh pages of Wikipedia were rather sparse and decided to contribute, or at least try to move them along a little. One little thing;- I'd like to see "bocs swnd" replaced with "bocs tywod" or better still "blwch tywod". I know that the word "swnd" is used in certain regions but in Standard Welsh the word for "sand" is "tywod".


Rhys ydw i. Dwi'n byw ger Nice, Ffrainc ond ges i fy ngenu yn Wrecsam ac fe symudodd fy nheulu i Gaerdydd pan roeddwn ni'n ifanc. Dw'i wedi bod yn buw yn y Bala a Machynlleth hafyd. Dwi'n siarad Cymraeg a Ffrangeg yn rhugl, heb son am Saesneg wrth gwrs. Dwi'n medru Eidaleg eitha da hefyd ac ychydig Arabeg. Roeddwn ni'n gweld tudalennau Wicipedia Cymraeg braidd yn dlawd a phenderfynais i gyfrannu, wel o leia', ceisio symud nhw ymlaen ychydig. Un peth bach;- Buaswn ni'n hoffi gweld y geiriau "bocs tywod" yn hytrach na " bocs swnd" neu gwell byth "blwch tywod". Dwi'n gwybod bod nhw'n defnyddio'r gair "swnd" yn rhai ardaloedd ond y gair Cymraeg safonol ydy "tywod".



am y croeso


Thanks for the welcome! Although I don't actually speak Welsh, I've created an account for working with interwiki links. Diolch again! CLW 10:36, 25 Tachwedd 2005 (UTC)

Diolch am y croesoGolygu

Diolch am y croeso. Wedi sgrifennu'n erthygl cynta', teimlad braf! --Aranwr 00:17, 5 Ionawr 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for your welcome message. I'm sorry, I do not speak Welsh, but I admire he efforts to keep your (and any other!) language alive. Regards, --Mschlindwein 02:18, 22 Ionawr 2006 (UTC)

It's me again ;o) Could you please create the Babel entries for Portuguese? See Defnyddiwr:Mschlindwein to understand what I mean. Thanks! --Mschlindwein 02:22, 22 Ionawr 2006 (UTC)

Diolch am y croeso, a phenblwydd hapus ichi pan yw'n digwydd rhywbryd.


Greetings Deborah Fisher!, Can you please help me translate this article into the Welsh language? (I sincerely apologize for the previous machine-translated version) Your help would be appreciated (A stub is all that I ask from you).

Regards -- Joseph, 02:12 Dydd Iau 16 Mawrth 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou so much for your stub Deb! I am very grateful. -- 05:57 Dydd Iau 28 Mai 2020 (UTC)

Diolch am y croeso!Golygu

Cofion, Theo 01:12, 25 Mawrth 2006 (UTC)


Hi, as you obviously know Welsh better that me (I don't know hardly anything), can you grammar check these articles:

Thanks. Telex 19:42, 3 Mai 2006 (UTC)


Hi! Sorry for the delay, I do not come here very often... I think the "babel" templates are OK, but you put a link to the portuguese language in English, not in Cymraeg. Thanks, --Mschlindwein 00:53, 3 Mehefin 2006 (UTC)

As of 3rd June 2006Golygu

Deb, The State Union of Serbia and Montenegro has ceased to exist, but this Welsh Language encyclopedia has not recognised this news. I believe that the article Serbia a Montengro should become a historical article and new articles for the new independent countries need to be created. Draig goch20 18:52, 6 Mehefin 2006 (UTC)

Victoria, GozoGolygu

Dwi ddim yn deall pam fod Victoria, Malta wedi cael ei newid i Victoria, Gozo ar sail "cywirdeb". Mae ynys Gozo yn ran o Malta ac mae ieithoedd eraill Wikipedia i gyd yn defnyddio'r pennawd Victoria, Malta.

I don't understand why Victoria, Malta has been changed to Victoria, Gozo on the basis of "accuracy". The island of Gozo is part of Malta and the other Wikipedia languages all use Victoria, Malta as the page title or a variation thereof. 20:10, 7 Gorffennaf 2006 (UTC)


Welais i ddim mo'r neges tan heddiw. Tipyn bach yn hwyr, felly, ond diolch am y croeso! Telsa 09:32, 23 Gorffennaf 2006 (UTC)

28 AwstGolygu

Rwyf wedi rhoi cwestiwn ar Sgwrs:28 Awst - falle y byddi'n gwybod yr ateb gan mae ti osododd y digwyddiad ar y dudalen! (You might know the answer to the question on Sgwrs:28 Awst since you posted the entry!) Lloffiwr 19:59, 1 Awst 2006 (UTC)


Dw i'n nol arol y toriad hir. Sut ydy popeth ar Wicipedia?

Amlder20 20:39, 4 Awst 2006 (UTC)

I need a favourGolygu

The wikipedia account Allweth-Fawr is also mine, and I would also like to link that to my Amlder20 page for people to realise that I am not using that account. I registered that account years ago and forgot about it. Is it possible to have that page link to my Amlder20 userpage?

Amlder20 22:32, 5 Awst 2006 (UTC)

Diolch yn fawr, pob lwc i chi

Amlder20 18:10, 6 Awst 2006 (UTC)

Diolch / Merci / ArigatōGolygu

Diolch am y croeso, Deb. Dwi'n newydd i Wikipedia fel cyfrannwr ond dwi wedi fy machu rwan! Mae 'na gymaint i'w wneud a dwi'n cael gwefr o weld y wikipedia'n tyfu.

Thanks for the welcome, Deb. I'm new to Wikipedia as a contibutor but I'm hooked on it now! There's just so much to do and I get a buzz out of seeing the wikipedia growing.

--Anatiomaros 23:20, 15 Awst 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I am creating a special advertisement video for to attract more Welsh users and this of course shall be on I have my own images of the dragon superimposed onto a map of Wales. I am seeking permission from the head sysop to do this.

Amlder20 15:26, 19 Awst 2006 (UTC)

Llywelyn Ein Llyw OlafGolygu

Helo Deb, Ga'i dynnu eich sylw at yr erthygl Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf a'r nodyn gennyf yn Sgwrs:Llywelyn_Ein_Llyw_Olaf? Dwi'n meddwl buasai'n well symud yr erthygl i dudalen newydd dan yr enw Llywelyn ap Gruffudd. I think most of the article should be put on a new page (above), whilst retaining the entry with more relevant content, as I explain in the Sgwrs on the page. Do you agree? Fôn. Anatiomaros 17:12, 24 Awst 2006 (UTC)


Croeso, just happened to spot it. By the way I found it impossible to log in yesterday - the server insisted that I'd disabled cookies but that was not the case. Tried everything - changed browsers IE/Firefox , lowest safety rating for cookies in both etc. - then I found that the server had actually given me cookies after all! Deleted, tried again; same result. VERY odd! Know of anything similar happening in the past? It was frustrating, to say the least. Cofion, Fôn Anatiomaros 18:46, 29 Awst 2006 (UTC)

Diolch am y croesoGolygu

Diolch yn fawr! Xn4 07:25, 11 Medi 2006 (UTC)

Tudalen hafanGolygu

Byddwn yn falch pe bai un o'r gweinyddwyr yn rhoi ei sylw i Wicipedia:Y Caffi#Tudalen hafan os gwelwch yn dda:) Lloffiwr 21:45, 11 Medi 2006 (UTC)

Negeseuon MediaWiciGolygu

Could you please change the following MediaWici messages:

Diolch yn fawr. —Adam (sgwrscyfraniadau) 19:31, 15 Medi 2006 (UTC)

negeseuon mediwiciGolygu

Mae nifer o gynigion diwygio negeseuon mediwici ar fy nhudalen defnyddiwr. Oes amser ganddoch i'w newid? There are some suggestions for amendments to wicimedia messages on my user page. Have you the time to action them? Lloffiwr 21:40, 17 Medi 2006 (UTC)

No need for apologies. I don't know how the changes to messages are done - Gareth Wyn did a few for me based on my suggestions on the message talk page. On each talk page I say that I am suggesting an amendment or translation. Then I give my suggestion. On the 'removedwatch' message that is followed by my own comment about it being consistent with another message concerning the watch lists. On the 'mypreferences' message there is some discussion after my signature on the original post agreeing with the suggestion. Please ignore Viewprevnext - this is work in progress. I hope I have identified the correct messages in my suggestions and that I am not messing the system up elsewhere with these suggestions, but am fairly confident that I am getting the hang of this exercise. Have fun! Lloffiwr 21:20, 18 Medi 2006 (UTC)

Also, if I translated the straightforward requests for cleaning up the hafan page which are on the hafan sgwrs page could you tackle some of those? Lloffiwr 21:24, 18 Medi 2006 (UTC)

Have gone ahead and translated postings on the hafan sgwrs page which are outstanding, most of which are straightforward amendments to wording. Hafan will eventually need to be redesigned but you will see that the current suggestions are designed to improve the appearance of hafan with relatively little effort (getting rid of red links, etc.) I am also trying to make sure that the pages linked to hafan are of good quality so as not to put off potential readers withing five minutes of landing at Wicipedia! I am aware that you have a lot of admin stuff to do on Wicipedia already - if this extra load is too much please could you let me know so that I know to pester elsewhere? Lloffiwr 21:54, 29 Medi 2006 (UTC)
In case you haven't yet noticed this latest posting from Adam please read Wicipedia:Y Caffi#Tudalen_hafan before acting on the above. Lloffiwr 15:59, 30 Medi 2006 (UTC)
Dim problem - hope you enjoyed your hols. Lloffiwr 17:50, 8 Hydref 2006 (UTC)
Can I check whether you are intending to revise the MediaWici messages - am I guessing right that the procedure for this is new to you? A note for you as to where its at with this would be much appreciated as I feel a bit in the dark about this. Please do not take this message to mean that I am getting impatient as I am not - I am keen however to be reassured as to whether I am waiting in vain! Also, do you know what has happened to our other sysops as you seem to be the only one still active on wicipedia? Actually, whether the absence of the other sysops is in fact temporary or permanent, is it maybe time to create a few more sysops to share you burden? Given that you are the one carrying wicipedia at the moment what is your view on this? Lloffiwr 13:58, 21 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Well, thank you for nominating me to be a sysop. I guess I can change the messages myself now and will tackle that when I have got to grips with my changed circumstances. Since you are now a bureocrat (congratulations) I would like to nominate Adam also to be a sysop. Lloffiwr 13:07, 22 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Useless articles.Golygu

Deb, can you delete these articles, some were created for vadalism:

Paul-L 14:24, 20 Medi 2006 (UTC)

Martial a'r Fogonydd a phethau eraillGolygu

Hello Deb. Thanks for creating a llenyddiaeth Ladin category. About "The British Martial" (see Sgwrs:Martial): that's the only form of his literary pseudonym that's normally used, presumably because it was printed as such in editions of Owen's epigrams.

Have you seen the page Y Fogonydd (beirdd)? I came across it yesterday. Somebody's taking the mick! It's a character from The Hitchiker's Guide to the Universe and most definitely does not belong to the catgeory Beirdd! It's very tongue in cheek and needs cutting sharply or deleting, in my opinion. Why do people do these things? Ah well, back to the wiki-ing (next entry for Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru: Wicïaf, Wicïo?!). Regards, Fôn Anatiomaros 22:15, 21 Medi 2006 (UTC)


Could you please update MediaWici:Common.css? (Just copy the code from the English version and replace what's there now.) Diolch. —Adam (sgwrscyfraniadau) 13:11, 8 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. Diolch yn fawr! :) —Adam (sgwrscyfraniadau) 18:16, 8 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Sysops and BureaucratsGolygu

Hi Deb. Thanks for dropping me the note. I'm hardly ever on cy these days (don't think I've been here for 6 months, life, don't you know!), so I've made Lloffiwr a sysop and you a bureaucrat so you can make more at your pleasure (there's not that many extra powers that a bureaucrat has, so I'm sure you won't go mad!). All the best. -- Arwel 12:43, 22 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

A croeso i chi!Golygu

Hi Deb, many thanks for the welcome. Like many others here (so it seems, anyway), I'm a Welsh learner (and much better at reading than writing at the moment), so I'm looking forward to learning as well as contributing to the Welsh Wicipedia. Rob Lindsey 12:48, 22 Hydref 2006 (UTC)


I'd be very happy to be made a sysop. Diolch yn fawr! :) —Adam (sgwrscyfraniadau) 17:08, 22 Hydref 2006 (UTC) Diolch eto! —Adam (sgwrscyfraniadau) 18:53, 22 Hydref 2006 (UTC)


No problem writing to me in English. I speak it better than I do Welsh. Mh96 07:09, 26 Hydref 2006 (UTC)


For discussion of naming conventions to brenhinoedd please see discussion Wicipedia:Cymorth iaith#Brenhinoedd y Deyrnas Unedig. It is true that I only waited for one confirmation before starting on renaming, perhaps I am getting a little hasty with my edits. I will hang fire on brenhinoedd for a while. Lloffiwr 19:52, 27 Hydref 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message regarding starting a page equivalent to Wikipedia:Naming conventions. I am quite happy to start such a page but as there are several ways of translating 'conventions' (principally arferion and safonau) I feel that the question of the page title needs to be put to the community for discussion, either by yourself or myself. The page on 'arddull' is the page I have been consulting up till now to discover what conventions there are on Wicipedia. In fact I was not aware that there was a convention on naming monarchs on Wicipedia until I looked in the Caffi archives the other day. This makes me wonder whether there are any other conventions which have not yet been written up in the Wicipedia:Arddull page which are perhaps buried in the archives of Y Caffi? Also is your idea that the page on naming conventions will have more force as a policy than the page on style? Lloffiwr 21:31, 28 Hydref 2006 (UTC)


Thanks Deb. While my Welsh isn't up to scratch for most purposes, I'm happy that I can do something useful (info boxes do take a bit of effort to fill in). Next task will be to finish all the un-articled countries of the world. Maybe by then I'll be confident enough to write longer articles! Cheers. Rob Lindsey 09:08, 7 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)


Yes, I'd like to become a sysop. Paul-L 11:55, 8 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

Double categoryGolygu

Hi Deb, sut mae? I've just noticed there are two categories that cover more or less the same ground, "Categori:Mynyddoedd Cymru" and "Categori:Mynyddoedd a bryniau Cymru". The latter is the larger. Would it be possible to merge them? I suppose keeping the latter is the best option as it is often difficult to decide whether a height is a bryn or a mynydd! Anatiomaros 17:35, 8 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

Diolch Deb, mae'n well fel yna. 'Da ni'n dechrau cael tipyn o drefn ar y categorïau 'ma o'r diwedd! (Er mod i'n dal i ffeindio hen erthyglau heb gategori o gwbl!). Anatiomaros 19:12, 8 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

Laura PausiniGolygu

Hello Deb, I saw you're amongst the contributors of Laura Pausini's Welsh article. Since I don't speak a single work of Welsh I'll write you in English: I wanted to tell you that she issued a recent CD which name is Io Canto. ah, another thing. If you want to add her birthplace, it's Faenza (province of Ravenna). Thanks for your attention. Sergio the Blackcat. 21:11, 18 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)


O ba lliw yw dy wallt? Mh96 23:30, 28 Tachwedd 2006 (UTC)

Geiriau newydd i dysguGolygu

Mewn fy tudalen defnyddiwr, Dwi'n gadael eiriau dydw i ddim yn deall, gallech chi help? Amlder20 23:13, 14 Rhagfyr 2006 (UTC)


helo Adam a Deb,

sori i'ch poeni chi. dwi ddim yn deall wicipedia yn dda iawn ond hoffwn i gyfrannu pan mae amser gen i. mae'n syniad gwych! dw i'n falch o weld y lle wedi gwella'n sylweddol yn y blynyddoedd diwethaf hefyd.

dw i wedi gadael nodyn ar dudalen sgwrsio'r Eginyn [2] (a ddim yn cofio sut mae'r dolenni mewnol yn gweithio) ond ddim yn siwr a oes unrhyw un wedi ei weld eto? dw i'n cytuno bod eginyn yn well na stwbyn, ond efallai bod angen gwella eto ar y frawddeg sy'n ymddangos ar waelod pob eginyn?

diolch am eich sylw

Osian 23:24, 5 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

IP vandalGolygu

Hello. I just want to inform you about this nervy IP. If you feel like blocking it, please do. :o) --Thogo 21:53, 21 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)


Sut gallwn i marcio Defnyddiwr:TXiKiBoT a Defnyddiwr:Thijs!bot am botiau? Diolch Marnanel 13:48, 26 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)

Ie, ydy wir. (I'm here on and off still, but the more Welsh I learn the more self-conscious I get that what I write isn't good enough :/ ). Marnanel 01:31, 27 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have found out how to do it. [3] will let you edit a user's rights, but I don't have the rights to do so. Perhaps you do? The users which really need marking are Defnyddiwr:TXiKiBoT, Defnyddiwr:Thijs!bot, and Defnyddiwr:JAnDbot. Marnanel 14:31, 23 Chwefror 2007 (UTC)


Since the fundraiseing drive is over you might want to blank this.Geni 19:12, 30 Ionawr 2007 (UTC)


Hi there Deb, Since you're an admin, I thought I'd point out some vandalism occuring on User:Arwel Parry's user page by User:Johnny Hephaestos. Happened last week (with no consequences) and now it's happened again. Not very nice stuff. Might be time for a blocking maybe (unless another admin gets to it first)?!

Diolch! Rob Lindsey 04:48, 18 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Blocked. 'Dan ni ddim angen pobl fel 'na ar ein wiki! Anatiomaros 17:18, 19 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

This person's persistent, to say the least. Similar vandalism today after he/she created a new user account. Blocked again. Maybe he/she's using a proxy? Gyda llaw, mwynhea dy daith yn yr Aifft - we expect a long article on the pyramids when you get back! Anatiomaros 15:06, 20 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Gosodiadau diofynGolygu

Currently, the Welsh wikipedia's default settings mean that all intrawiki (mewnwici) links are underlined without having to roll the mouse over them. It's different from all the other wikipedias, and it looks a little ugly. It can be changed by going to "fy newisiadau" (there's a detailed explanation about it in Y Caffi), but as a bureaucrat, I was wondering if there was a way for you to change the default settings of the site so that it looks more professional for everyone. Thanks in advance. Tomos ANTIGUA Tomos 17:06, 19 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

I agree totally with Tomos (see Y Caffi). Is it possible to fix this? Hard to understand why we're the odd one out. Anatiomaros 15:08, 20 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Everything looks much better now: llawer mwy deniadol a haws i'w darllen. Diolch yn fawr. Anatiomaros 19:50, 25 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Sub PagesGolygu

Hi Deb, can you delete these sub pages of mine:
Defnyddiwr:Paul-L/Example Date Format
Defnyddiwr:Paul-L/Rhisiart III

Paul-L 20:19, 24 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Re Sysop
I've previously accepted, Sgwrs_Defnyddiwr:Deb#Sysop_2, but do I still need to ask someone to nominate, or support my nomination? Paul-L 20:03, 25 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)

Diolch yn fawr, Deb. Paul-L 16:45, 26 Mawrth 2007 (UTC)


I have noticed that there is a sub-heading 'cerdd' in the pages on individual years which I think was created by you. Unfortunately the main meaning of 'cerdd' on its own is 'poem'. It means music in combinations such as ystafell gerdd (music room), offeryn cerdd (musical instrument) but using 'cerdd' on its own to mean music appears affected or old-fashioned (isn't language a convoluted tool!). I bring this to your attention as I think from looking at the page histories that you created these sub-headings, when Wicipedia was in its infancy. I wanted to check with you whether these were created using a bot? If so, is it possible to create a bot to change 'cerdd' to 'cerddoriaeth'? (I don't know anything about bots myself, beyond that they save work!) Or were they created using a note? I dread the thought of ploughing through all the years to change them manually. Lloffiwr 18:51, 6 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

yn GymraegGolygu

I have undone your change in mutation on Hafan because although you would expect words beginning in C to mutate after 'yn' unfortunately Cymraeg is an exception! I seem to remember reading somewhere that the 'logic' (inasmuch as any language has a logic!) for this is that there is a silent 'y' in the middle - yn y Gymraeg. This silent 'y' causes treiglad meddal. However in a phrase such as yng Nghymraeg y Gogledd there is no silent 'y' and therefore the treiglad is trwynol. Now you'll be able to impress all and sundry with an extremely obscure point of grammar! Lloffiwr 21:11, 13 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I'm Yonatan, an admin on commons, and I run YonaBot, an pywikipedia bot that adds interwikis mainly from the Hebrew Wikipedia. I already have the bot flag on ar, cs, da, de, en, fr, id, it, no, nl, pl, pt and sv. Thanks, Yonatan 21:42, 16 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

By the way, the page to give a bot flag is Special:Makebot. Yonatan 21:40, 22 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

Dim problem! / ProblemGolygu

Dim problem, don't mention it. Someone with a grudge against Welsh wikipedians perhaps? By the way, would it be possible to put the new bot on the leash? We've suddenly gone back to 60 edits an hour by a bot and it's hard to keep track of what's happening! Hwyl, Fôn Anatiomaros 21:33, 17 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

If you want I can disable it for now until you decide whether to give me the bot flag or not... just let me know on my commons talk page. Thanks, Yonatan 18:38, 18 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)


[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}]] needs to be added to this so that people can click to see the authors.Geni 12:59, 22 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}]] needs to be added to MediaWici:Sharedupload in some form. See en:mediawiki:Sharedupload for an example of how this can be done.Geni 13:57, 30 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

MediaWici:Sharedupload is the message that appears when you view an image that is hosted on commons. by adding [[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}]] to it you will make the page link to the image page on commons.Geni 21:44, 30 Ebrill 2007 (UTC)

It works (and does what I expected). Idealy it would be prefaced with the Welsh word for "from" but that is far from critical.Geni 23:10, 3 Mai 2007 (UTC)

Request for bot statusGolygu

Hi. I'd like to ask you to grant User:SieBot bot status on this Wikipedia for adding interwikilinks. The bot already has edit rights on about 30 Wikipedias. Thank you. Siebrand 12:07, 6 Mai 2007 (UTC)

To say that this is one busy little bot would be the understatement of the year. Please grant Siebrand its status ASP before it drowns 'Newidiadau Diweddar'! Anatiomaros 19:32, 6 Mai 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I think it was you who asked my how to add user rights for a bot. I am not 100% sure, but I think you need to go to [Special:Userrights]], add the username and add the user User:SieBot to the group Bot or Bots. (source: meta:Help:User rights. Cheers! Siebrand 20:06, 6 Mai 2007 (UTC)

It's off again! Please can you hide SieBot's edits? Hwyl, Anatiomaros 15:50, 7 Mai 2007 (UTC)
Phew! Diolch am hynny! 50 edits in 20 minutes was a bit too much. Diolch eto (ac i Arwel hefyd). Anatiomaros 16:02, 7 Mai 2007 (UTC)
Done! You only needed to get my attention over on en: :) ! -- Arwel 16:03, 7 Mai 2007 (UTC)
I've just noticed a serious problem with the SieBot's edits. When it adds "be-x-old:(xxx)" (Old Byelorussian?) it shows up on the page itself, even though it's neatly in place in the list of interwikis. See for example Dydd Iau. A quick look at the bot's contributions suggests there may be hundreds of these to clean up, somehow or other. Could you ask Arwel or somebody who knows about the technical side of things to check this, please? Is it just SieBot or have there been problems previously, for instance? Either way it looks very untidy and spoils the article's appearance. Finding and removing them all would be quite a task, and rather pointless if it's just going to be repeated by SieBot or some other bot. Anatiomaros 18:32, 11 Mai 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that too when I updated the interwiki section for my bot earlier today. It looks to me as if an entry in the interwiki table for the database of this wiki (and possibly others) is missing. As you can see on for example in the interwiki section of my user page on Dutch Wikipedia, the problem does also occur there. Please do not remove the interwikis, but create an issue with high priority at and ask for it to be fixed. I'll try and get developer attention on IRC. Siebrand 18:50, 11 Mai 2007 (UTC)
copy from reply on nl.wp talk page because only now I have access to a different IP address
Deb, you blocked SieBot and me (Siebrand) on cy: for an issue that was not the cause of the bot, but of the Wikimedia system administrators. I have personally asked Brion to fix it and he has done so immediately. Please remove the block. It has been fixed. I could not answer on cy.wp because of the block. Siebrand 11 May 2007 21:35 (CEST)

Diolch unwais etoGolygu

Hello again - we ran into each other in relation to [Idris Foster] where you correctly identified my college affiliation! I doubt I'll use this account much, as my Welsh really isn't up to it, but it might be useful to pop in now and again if something I'm doing on an en-page could usefully (and easily!) be done for a cy-page e.g. [4]. Thanks for the welcome. Bencherlite 20:32, 31 Mai 2007 (UTC)

Bot status BotMultichillGolygu

Hi, i request a bot bit for BotMultichill.

  • Botmaster : Multichill
  • Bot's name : BotMultichill
  • List of botflags on others wikipedias: about 60 atm (see meta:User:Multichill for the current list)
  • Purpose: Interwiki (pywikipedia)
  • Technical details : BotMultichill is an interwiki bot starting at the Dutch wikipedia. The bot uses the pywikipedia framework and runs day and night in autonomous mode. Sometimes the bot will run in manual assisted mode to solve interwiki conflicts. Multichill 20:24, 26 Mehefin 2007 (UTC)
Hi Deb, didnt get any response from you. Do you want me to put this request in the Cafe first? Multichill 21:55, 21 Gorffennaf 2007 (UTC)
Return to the user page of "Deb/Coflyfr 1".